Sensitive Shidduchim: An Interview with Mrs. Chava Most


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Finding a suitable shidduch is difficult for everyone. How much more difficult is it for people who have some kind of health problem?!

Miriam, a young woman who survived an ordeal with cancer, wanted to move on in life and start dating. “I had just finished treatment for an aggressive cancer,” she says, “and was considered cured. But since everything was still quite recent, finding a shidduch seemed very unlikely.” 

In the secular world, couples meet naturally at events, at work, or in school, and the two sides get to know each other before finding out about health problems (or they can see the problems with their own eyes). In the frum dating system, people tend to be names on a piece of paper with lists of references. It is thus very hard or nearly impossible for someone with a genetic, mental, or physical disability to be given a chance. If a prospective shidduch is just a name, why not choose to go out with a person who does not have a known problem?

Fortunately, there are shadchanim whose mission it is to facilitate such people’s finding their match. I had the privilege of talking to such a shadchan for “sensitive shidduchim”: Mrs. Chava Most, of Lakewood. Her clientele comprise individuals who have an issue that makes it difficult to find a spouse.

Miriam went to see Mrs. Most. “She met with me and immediately began calling my mother with suggestions,” says Miriam. “She gave us hope. My mother and I found her accessible, helpful, and sensitive. She was never too busy to help us navigate suggestions and questions that came up along the way. She helped me meet my husband, and she actually came to our wedding. She was the right shaliach to lead to where I am today.” 

Mrs. Most was kind enough to share her thoughts and expertise on this vital topic.

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Where What When: Who comes to you for help in finding a spouse?

 

Chava Most: “I have dealt with individuals across the spectrum: modern Orthodox, Lubavitch, yeshivish, chasidim, and anything in-between. Not everyone who contacts me has a medical issue. They may have been sick many years ago and are perfectly healthy now, or they may have a fertility or genetic issue. They may have siblings or a parent with a physical or health issue. Or perhaps they have had other life experiences that have changed, molded, or matured them, and made them open to looking into a shidduch that at first glance looks imperfect.

Everyone is seeking that perfect shidduch, one that will wow their friends and neighbors. But no one is perfect. We all have our issues. The biggest “syndrome” affecting everyone is, “Ma yomru habriyos! What will people think?” However, what people may think isn’t going to get you the spouse who is perfect for you. Once the initial excitement is over, you are on your own, working on making a relationship that will last forever. It is the honesty of the individuals and their parents that encourages them to approach me and say, “I’m not perfect, but I’m seeking a shidduch that will be perfect for me and my situation.”

Through my experiences with siyata d’Shamaya, and after hadracha (guidance) from many rabbanim and doctors, I have developed a method to deal with the various medical and sensitive situations that cross my path.

 

WWW: How does your approach in dealing with sensitive shidduchim differ from that of regular shidduchim?

 

CM: The conventional approach for most people is to pursue regular shidduchim and then disclose any pertinent medical issues only after three or four dates. For many, this approach works fine, and they find a prospective spouse who, for whatever reason, agrees to their issue.

However, many individuals face rejection time and time again. Or, as I’ve heard multiple times, people are so nervous to divulge their secret after a certain number of dates that they can’t date in a relaxed manner, and they mess up before even getting to the point of revealing their issue. Singles often tell me about the many rejections they have gone though, only to feel burnt out after several years.

Those individuals with obvious physical issues don’t always have the option to date and discuss their issues after three dates, as they have trouble even getting a date. They watch their friends date and get married, while they are left behind. The same scenario might occur with someone who has a messy family situation or someone who went through a medical saga like cancer. Shidduch suggestions just don’t come their way, and they are seeking matches with those who have been through something themselves.

 

WWW: What is behind the idea of revealing problems at the third or fourth date?

 

CM: Rabbanim across the spectrum are guiding most individuals with a current or past medical history to begin dating and only bring up their issue when they see that the shidduch has potential. When someone hears dry medical facts, their initial response will be that: dry and flat. However, if they have already met the person and taken a liking to the individual, and then hear something medical, it becomes a whole different story. It’s not just about the medical facts. It’s also about seeing how the individual has dealt with their situation, how they view themselves, and how they have grown from their challenge. None of that can be known until one is face to face with the individual.

I also spend time fielding calls from regular families who are in the middle of a shidduch and hear that the girl or boy their child is dating has such and such a problem. What should they do?! Hashem is the ultimate Shadchan, and, b”H, there have been many such cases where a completely healthy individual has married someone with a health issue.

 

WWW: What approach do you use?

 

CM: My motto is I match people, not problems. In order to foster trust and truly get to know the person, I endeavor to meet everyone who contacts me. This also shows a seriousness on their end. I don’t just meet people for five or ten minutes. It’s normally closer to 45 minutes, often longer. Typically, when I meet someone, I have already had a discussion with the parents or the individuals themselves over the phone. I really try and get to know the person as best as I can. I have a candid discussion with them about their situation and what types of shidduchim they would entertain. Everyone has their red lines. Everyone has their own life experiences which determine which issues they are open to and which they aren’t. Some people seek to find a spouse who shares a similar issue. Others prefer the opposite. It’s also a fact that various medical issues are viewed from a different perspective in different countries! My job is to try and learn about the person and to respect where they are coming from.

Confidentiality is crucial as well. I learned this from my father, who is a doctor in Manchester, England. Concern for confidentiality starts with the initial introduction and spans the entire process all the way to an engagement and beyond. People are worried that if I make their shidduch everyone will know that there was an issue – to which I respond that, when we reach the finishing line, be”H, if we need to, we will make up a story and attribute the shidduch to a rav or relative, who will shoulder the title.

 

WWW: Do you tell all the facts of the situation before the couple meets?

 

CM: There are shadchanim who will suggest a match that way: “I have a boy for you. He was diagnosed with leukemia 10 years ago,” and they go into great detail about his medical situation without disclosing his identity. I don’t do that. Since my main objective is for the shidduch to be a match between personalities, middos, hashkafa and families, I suggest a shidduch with a real name and profile, without discussing the sensitive aspect yet. I want the person to look into my idea, to view it like a regular shidduch and to see whether the basics of family, middos, and hashkafa are in line with what they are seeking. 

Another advantage to this approach is protecting people’s confidentiality. We are only sharing medical information with the other side after we see the potential in the shidduch. This ensures that fewer people are privy to this highly confidential information; everyone has more confidence when they know exactly with whom they are sharing their information. The boundaries of confidentiality may change if someone has a situation that is public or obvious. Hence, I will mention such to the other side but reserve the right to withhold private information like medication and specific details until the shidduch has reached a more developed stage.

 

WWW: When do you go into the details?

 

CM: Once a couple gets to three or four dates and potential is apparent, it’s time to exchange medical information. We create an approach unique to each couple. Generally, I start the process by outlining to each side the general medical history. This may be followed with exchanging of medical letters or records. Sometimes parents wish to talk directly to the other set of parents. And eventually, in most cases, the couple will discuss their conditions and experiences with each other. Arranging phone consults with medical professionals is time consuming and taxing on those involved. HIPPA forms have to be completed, and schedules have to be aligned. We never want anyone to bother their doctors unnecessarily, so we involve doctors only after a shidduch has reached this stage.

Every match that occurs in the general population is also a product of multiple pieces that are put together to complete the picture. If people get introduced and get excited over the other person, they may decide to disregard a piece in the puzzle that is not so ideal. But the shidduch goes ahead based on the overall positive picture and factors surrounding it.

 

WWW: How do you decide which person would be a good shidduch for another person?

 

CM: It’s impossible for anyone to take different medical situations, weigh them on a scale and exclaim, “Bingo, here we have a perfectly balanced shidduch.” It’s the entire picture that has to be balanced out, not just the medical facts. That being said, I do try hard to match up issues that make sense. Someone with a minor treatable chronic problem will not typically entertain a shidduch with someone who has a progressive illness or someone with an expected short life span. A comment I hear often from those who have hidden medical challenges is that they don’t want to take someone with an open physical disability. I’m not here to determine whether they are right or wrong; my job is to understand the person and respect their views. It’s actually interesting to note that I rarely have a shidduch that falls apart due to medical reasons. Most dating couples decide not to continue due to personality or hashkafos not matching exactly. Perhaps only twice a year do I actually have a case where the couple dates three or four times, exchanges medical information, and then stops the shidduch due to medical incompatibility.

 

WWW: Do you ever doubt yourself?

 

CM: There have been occasions where I was unsure about the “balance” of the two issues and concerned whether I was asking one side to compromise too much. In such cases, I discussed the case without any names with the rav representing the other side. Once the rav agreed that the shidduch had merit, I redt it like any other shidduch and allowed it to proceed to three dates. The medical issues were then discussed, and the rav was consulted. In both cases, b”H, the shidduch went ahead to a successful match. I had the confidence to do that because I knew in advance that the rav thought it was a good idea.

Interestingly, I’ve heard time and time again from individuals that having gone through a certain challenge has matured them and made them more sensitive. They have told me that they would actually prefer marrying someone who has also been though something. This common thread creates a bond and understanding that makes their relationship very real. It also gives the marriage balance – where neither side feels that they “settled” for an issue that they didn’t really imagine themselves taking on.

 

WWW: Are you knowledgeable about the medical issues?

 

CM: I do get involved on the medical end. Many new tests have been developed over recent years, and many new syndromes discovered. B”H, there is so much available, and getting the right diagnosis can be very helpful for the person’s own health and the health of their future children. There are methods available today that were not available 20 years ago to prevent passing on conditions. I spend a lot of time educating people that there is no downside to getting genetic testing done. If the tests come back with nothing, then you are back to where you started. And if you test positive for something, you are armed with information that can help you or your future children. I’m not here to pasken whether people should or shouldn’t be doing PGD (preimplantation genetic diagnosis done together with IVF) to ensure that their children don’t get something; but I do know many families who, after having multiple grandchildren born with developmental delays, heart, or other issues, are so happy that PGD is available and an option for their children.

The same applies to fertility testing. People ask whether going for testing will help or hinder the shidduch process. My first response is that it’s crucial that they consult with a rav who is up to date with this topic. There are newer methods available which are not contrary to halacha. Testing doesn’t make finding a shidduch more challenging. It just helps us figure out what shidduch would be suitable. 

 

WWW: What are the roles of Dor Yeshorim, doctors, and rabbanim when it comes to genetic testing?

 

CM: In addition to their standard tests, Dor Yesharim has developed a few specialized tests for recessive disorders that are available upon request for those who know that there is a specific gene in their family. Testing is important because, many families don’t understand the scope of their own medical situation. They may know they have a certain condition but have no idea that their issue is dominant and they have a 50% chance of passing it on to their children!

Sometimes, doctors are wary of referring someone to a genetic counselor, or they don’t spell out the details of the condition for fear of hurting or upsetting the patient. Especially in a case where parents have a child with a specific genetic condition, it is important to do the testing in order to avoid its occurrence in a subsequent child. As far as consulting with a rav, some rabbanim are more knowledgeable in these areas than others, and it is crucial to do the research and find one who is.

 

WWW: How should references respond when asked about a person with a medical problem?

 

CM: I coach people in how to deal with references in the shidduch process. Unfortunately, in today’s generation, people sometimes talk more than necessary, and many a shidduch has been derailed when well-meaning relatives or references conveyed the wrong medical facts, or gave information prematurely in the process. I’ll give you two examples that happened with me:

Mrs. B called a reference listed as an aunt on Dassy’s profile. Dassy had a medical issue. Her aunt told Mrs. B that she didn’t know who Dassy was! When Mrs. B reminded her that it was her own niece, she fumbled and told Mrs. B to call Dassy’s mother to discuss her issues and suitability to marry! I had met Dassy and her mother myself, and it was clear that she was ready to start shidduchim. If the aunt felt otherwise, she should have at least had the seichel (sense) to inform Mrs. B that she couldn’t talk at that moment and clarified things with her niece before answering any questions. Instead, she planted a big red flag in front of Mrs. B, who was now extremely hesitant to proceed further.

Sholom was a bachur who had a virus that affected his kidneys several years ago. B”H, he is completely healthy today, but people remembered the incident as he had taken medication which had caused some side effects that were obvious to those around him. One well-meaning reference told those who called about Sholom that he had kidney failure! This fact was a clear deviation from the truth and was causing people to look away from a completely healthy boy without even giving him a chance.

I can share many such incidents; the lesson learned from each is the same: Medical information should not be offered or shared by well-meaning relatives, or friends. Medical information should only go through the shadchan (if she has experience and is knowledgeable) or directly via parents or the individuals involved. Of course, everything should be clarified and checked with a medical professional and/or a rav as well. References will often embellish or interpret the medical facts as they see fit. They may suggest that certain conditions are genetic, which may be correct or may be incorrect. Either way, they are missing the overall genetic knowledge, testing, and solutions to explain to the other side why, even if it is genetic, there is still no reason to shy away from the shidduch.

Halachically, people are actually never allowed to offer any medical or sensitive information unless they are asked directly. If you are privy to such information, you need to discuss and decide how you will respond before you get the phone call. I actually advise people to respond to such questions by saying something like, “If she has anything to reveal, I know that she would prefer discussing it directly with the boy.”

 

Mrs. Chava Most is a discreet and confidential shadchan specializing in issues relating to genetic, fertility, physical, and other health conditions as well as other sensitive non-medical issues. To reach her, email sensitiveshidduchim@gmail.com or call or text 612-888-7908. Fax: 732-226-8979.

 

 

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